Saturday, February 6, 2010

When a plane lands at heathrow, the controller asks pilot to '' decent to aisl s'' whats that?

i have heard lots of time that when a plane lands at heathrow, on a final approch, air traffic controller asks the pilot '; report localised descent to aisle S'; what is that? is anybody know abt that?





and one more thing, he also asks that ';speed 160 to 40 M E'; whats that?


and also asks that '; report established localised runway 27L or so...'; but how the pilot do that? how they establish the connections between plane and runway. is there any communication system?


pls guide me, thanksWhen a plane lands at heathrow, the controller asks pilot to '' decent to aisl s'' whats that?
It isn't Aisle S it is ILS. ILS is short for Instrument Landing System. An ILS is a radio signal that gives a pilot guidance to the runway. In bad weather the ILS guides the pilot to the runway even if the weather and visibility are so bad that they cannot see the runway until they are right in front of it. Commercial aircraft and pilots are required to use it regardless instead of using their eyes outside of the cockpit since an ILS is so sensitive (plus or minus 7 feet at the runway threshold) as compared to the human eye and their flight plans require it (commercial planes fly too high to use ground landmarks for visual navigation so they rely on navigation radios and as such they land using them also). I think what you are hearing is ';Maintain 160 until established the localizer 27 Left'; (Every country is different in their exact wording, I'm American so it probably isnt 100% exact as to what you are hearing but it means the same thing). That means fly at a speed of 160 nautical miles per hour until established on the localizer. The localizer is the part of the ILS that lets pilots know if they are too far to the left or right of the runway and the glide slope lets them know if they are too high or too low. Air traffic control is telling the pilot to fly to a point where the ILS signal will come in and guide him / her to the runway. The ILS appears to the pilot as two lines. One vertical (localizer) and one horizontal (glide slope). The pilot flies an ILS by centering both lines on his instrument and making very small adjustments as the instrument shows the aircraft veering off course or too high / too low. Intercepting the localizer is the first step. The pilot flies until the localizer needle swings to the center of the instrument as they come on course the pilot then follows the localizer until the glide slope picks up and tells them if they should descend or climb (normally you don't climb, you just maintain altitude until you get closer and back on the proper descent profile). The whole 40 M E might be 4 DME which would (and I'm not familiar with procedure at Heathrow) be keep up 160 nautical miles per hour until 4 miles from the runway. DME is short for distance measuring equipment. Controllers will not say ';fourty'; in terms of distance such as ';40 miles'; rather we say ';four zero miles'; so that our accents don't confuse pilots from other nations. ';Report established localised runway 27L'; doesn't mean communicate with the runway. That simply means, when the localizer needle swings in and the pilot has guidance to the runway to let the controller know so they can clear them to land or if the controller doesn't get that info then they can know maybe the flight is having trouble or maybe the ILS radio is not working properly.When a plane lands at heathrow, the controller asks pilot to '' decent to aisl s'' whats that?
The planes track an electronic signal from near the runway that gives the aircraft guidance to follow to the end of the runway. The signal that gives the pilot information about whether he is left or right of a course to the runway is called the Localizer. A similar signal also gives the plane a descent path, called a glide slope, to follow that will take it to a touchdown point on the runway. Those two signals combine to make a portion of what is called the Instrument Landing System or ILS. (not aisle S)





When the controller says, ';report established on the the localizer to 27Left'; he wants to be told when the airplane has intercepted that course and is reliably tracking the localizer signal. Many times the controllers at Heathrow and Gatwick will clear us to ';descend on the ILS.'; It means the pilot can track the instrument approach system after intercepting it and can descend by following the glide slope. It is not the same as being cleared to conduct the full approach. There are other restrictions, but essentially it means you can turn in toward the airport, track the signal and begin to descend on it. The clearance usually is: ';intercept the Localizer, report established and descend via the ILS...approach clearance to follow.';


To keep aircraft from catching up to the ones in front of them they will assign a speed to be flown. What he is saying is maintain 160 knots to 4 DME (not 40 ME) or 4 nautical miles from the end of the runway. DME is, as others have said, is short for Distance Measuring Equipment, and it is displayed in several places in the cockpit. After that point, the speed will be at the Captains discretion. (For what it's worth, if they slowed Trans-Atlantic flights, arriving tight on fuel, to 160kts 40 miles from the airport they would get a real earful)


The airplanes are in constant radio contact with different air traffic controllers as they make their way to the airport. The names vary somewhat from how they are referred to in the US but they function pretty much the same.
There saying ILS, not aisle S........lol.


Not laughing at you. Just with you.
Hi, first... I am an airline pilot from Mexico who has been flying for Mexicana for nearly 28 years now. Currently a captain of the Airbus family. Now to your question... very probably you must have undestood and the clearance was CLEARED FOR AN ILS APPROACH ( this is a precision type approach) where the controller asks the pilots to report established on the localizer path for runway 27 Left . Very probably you misunderstood ';aisle'; for ';ils'; which is the designator for instrument landing system. Now.... how does the pilot knows this? by selecting in the aircraft computer the ILS to runway 27L. Hope this answers your question, if not email me at dan23676@yahoo.com Bye!!
The first is actually ILS, or instrument landing system. The second should be 160 knots airspeed and 40 nautical miles on the DME, distance measuring equipment. Then he speaks of the localizer for runway 27L, which is the runway centerline radio beacon. The pilot locks onto that and steers to the runway. The glide slope you did not mention is the path of descent provided by radio beacon to the runway.
Er! Where you hearing this?





Ain't it ILLEGAL to ';ear-wig'; into Airband transmissions?





Or maybe your a pilot coming into Heathrow and not know what the hell is going on!!





Frightening!
As previous answers confirm it is ILS. Part of the reason in stating this is that separation from helicopters operating on the heli routes in the London Control Zone is based on aircraft maintaining the ILS glidepath and passing safely above the helicopters. If a pilot was to make a visual approach then he may infringe that vertical separation.





160 to 4 DME is what they are probably saying and means that 160 knots IAS must be maintained until the aircraft is less than 4 miles to touchdown. This helps to maintain spacing between aircraft on final approach.





It would take too long in one answer to reply to all your points I'm afraid.
its is give slot of air space .to run way
Its not ';aisle S'; it's ILS ; Instrument Landing System.





Google it and have a read, sh!t loads out there without me boring you to death!

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